Showing posts with label Couple Charts. Show all posts
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Tuesday, May 6, 2014

Musings: Amal Alamuddin and George Clooney's Astrology Charts

So I found Amal Alamuddin's birthdate. I actually found it a day after doing George Clooney's chart, Let's hope this is the right one. Her birthtime is unknown therefore her Moon placement could shift.

A brief reading of her chart.



Amal Alamuddin's Natal Chart (Birthtime: unknown)

Sun at 15 Aquarius
Moon at 17 Sagittarius
Mercury at 29 Capricorn
Venus at 18 Aquarius
Mars at 27 Cancer
Jupiter at 27 Gemini
Saturn at 29 Leo
Uranus at 17 Scorpio
Neptune at 18 Sagittarius
Pluto at 17 Libra
North Node at 8 Libra

Chart Reading:
Amal has a Grand Air Trine with Sun-Venus, Jupiter and Pluto. A sign of self-expression, expansion and transformation. It is also a kite with Moon-Neptune at the apex. She is good at using her emotions/ideals to drive towards utilizing the above in her life but faces challenging aspect with Jupiter's expansion.

There is also a Yod between Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury. She struggles hard but eventually learns to overcome and uses her Mercury (communication) in making contributions in expansion/spirtuality or in authorities/responsibilities. I see this being tied with her being an attorney and fluent in 3 languages.

She has quite a beautiful chart.

I'll move on to synastry chart because that's where it gets really interesting.



Synastry Chart:

George's Sun-Mercury squares Amal's Sun-Venus
The two of them have Sun-Sun square. It spells fatal attraction at first meeting, one very impressed by his eloquence, the other impressed by her grace and beauty and confidence. However Sun-Sun square usually mean two egos being unable to stand each other after a while. As both of their Sun signs are in fixed signs, they are stubborn fellows where none refuse to back off.

George's Moon-Saturn conjuncts Amal's Mercury --- [A]
George's Mars conjuncts Amal's Mars --- [B]
Set [A] opposite Set [B]  (this is so "Maths")
George's Saturn-Moon is drawn to Alma's eloquence but he also wants to discipline her about it. As she is a lawyer (and her Yod), I think she is someone who is fine with handling authoritative figures so she's all good when dealing with George. However, they do have this Mars-Mars aspect. Mars-Mars conjunction would mean they have similarities in goals and sex. Since it is at the same spot directly opposite set [A], the Mars opposition energy is what both of them are familiar with, but it doesn't mean it doesn't frustrate them.

George feels the need to discipline whenever it comes to her communication, and when Alma replies perhaps not to his liking, his Mars opposition would trigger an anger response. A Mars-Mars conjunction here would burn and spread quickly since both are at the same point. George's Mars is in Leo while Alma's Mars is in Cancer. Cancer Mars can be passive aggressive when angered, inviting the roaring Leo Mars to pounce all over again.

As both are eloquent and expressive speakers, I can imagine a strong verbal argument to go on. I mean, you have to expect that if you are dating or marrying an attorney.

George's Venus, Amal's Moon-Neptune, George's Uranus form a Grand Fire Trine.
Amal's Sun-Venus is at the apex of the kite.
George's Pholus conjuncts Amal's Sun-Venus
The Grand Fire Trine or Kite is a great aspect, which suggests his love and her ideals/emotions and his unexpectness/originality work harmoniously together. Alma would be in the driver seat, driving it all together using her confidence/love/grace. George's Pholus there actually means that that's his turning point. Indeed her appearance in his life is his turning point. It made him change his mind about marriage.

George's Sun-Mercury square his Uranus
George's Venus trine his Uranus
Amal's Sun -Venus square her Uranus
In synastry,
George's Sun-Mercury opposite Amal's Uranus
Amal's Sun-Venus opposite George's Uranus
There's a lot of Uranus energy going on here. Both want to be free in different aspects. Alma prefers a less constraining relationship where she doesn't feel tied down. George wants to self-express himself in a rebellious manner. In the relationship, that's probably what draws them together. Uranus is also linked to humanitarian matters. It describes their passion which binds their relationship too, which is fighting for human rights.

Amal's Eros conjuncts George's Juno
Amal's passion triggers George's interest in making a commitment towards this relationship.

George's Pallas conjuncts Alma's Pholus-Persephone
George's Pluto-North Node conjuncts Amal's Proserpina-Saturn
In my previous entry, I talked about Pallas activation. Sure enough, George's Pallas is activated conjuncting Alma's Pholus (the turning point). His Pallas sense the potential in her.

In mythology, Perserphone/Proserpina was the maiden that got kidnapped by Hades (Pluto) from her controlling mother and got transformed to be Queen of the Underworld. Amal's Pholus-Persephone conjunction could imply she's someone waiting for a person to swoop her up and develop her to her fullest potential. Meeting George Clooney was probably unexpected as he is not someone from her circle. As it is also in Pisces, it could imply she's getting over dreamy about this handsome guy she has been dreaming all her life. Maybe she has a secret interest in getting into Hollywood. Who knows.

The Pluto-Proserpina conjunction and overall theme is pretty strong in their synastry. A binding transformational relationship. Maybe George tranforms her to be "Hollywood-ready" or ready in the public's eye. George's North Node conjuncts her Proserpina would suggest her transformation would indeed bring him much further. She could possibly be the one boosting his image and further aiding him towards his passion in human rights

There's more but I'll stop here.

Is this love?

I think it is, but more of a goal-driven kind of love.

On a second look, I realize in synastry, there is a Grand Fixed Cross. Grand Cross usually means really very challenging aspect with lots of energy. Personally, I don't like the fixed cross because it is rigid and not flexible. I picture lots of arguments again over freedom given in the relationship and individuality. Well, as they have the transformational theme going in their chart, there is a possibility it could work out. But it would involving breaking a lot of their old habits and restrictions to accommodate, in particular I think it would be George Clooney's.

Thursday, April 10, 2014

Astrological Chart of Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp

I didn't want to do this chart reading because of the similarities with someone. It scares me to think about it of whatever could have happened. But then I saw an astrologer who wrote about using asteroid Narcissus in their charts. I decided to take a second look at their charts using asteroids.

I know how Narcissus works when related to picking of partners but I don't think I've seen anyone write about it. And Pallas. I would go a little deeper if time permits.

Oscar Pistorius's Natal Chart (Birthtime: 10.30a.m)

Sun at 30 Scorpio
Moon at 4 Leo
Mercury at 14 Scorpio
Venus at 6 Scorpio
Mars at 28 Aquarius
Jupiter at 14 Pisces
Saturn at 11 Sagittarius
Uranus at 22 Sagittarius
Neptune at 5 Capricorn
Pluto at 7 Scorpio

Oscar's chart reeks of Scorponic intensity. His Sun sign is also in the last degree of Scorpio.
He has a lot of fixed signs squaring each other. I sense a lot of stubbornness from his chart.
He has a Venus-Pluto-Mercury conjunction in Scorpio. He can be quite the controlling, jealous lover.

Reeva Steenkamp's Natal Chart (Birthtime: unknown)

Sun at 26 Leo
Moon at 11 Capricorn
Mercury at 24 Virgo
Venus at 5 Virgo
Mars at 4 Leo
Jupiter at 2 Sagittarius
Saturn at 30 Libra
Uranus at 6 Sagittarius
Neptune at 27 Sagittarius
Pluto at 28 Libra

She has Sun and Mars in Leo. Her perfect man would be someone like a Leo, someone who loves being in the limelight and showy.
Her Mars is also squaring her Saturn-Pluto. She might not be the best at containing anger.

Asteroids Reading:

In Reeva's natal chart,
She has asteroid Karma conjunct Nessus-Valentine.
She has "abuse" karma. It can be positive, meaning she transcends by helping people with abusive tendencies. It can go negative, meaning she just keeps meeting the wrong guys and not knowing when to walk away.

She has asteroid Narcissus conjunct Mars.
Narcissus is the self-centered Greek God who's just obsessed with himself and rejects everyone. It can also mean self-love. It could mean she could be someone who's obsessed with achieving her personal goals (Mars) to point where it come off as selfish.

Reeva also has asteroid Apollo conjunct Venus.
Apollo is the Greek Sun God who's widely adored and idolized by many. In her chart, it could mean she expects to be loved and adored to the point where she thinks it is her right to have and might take it for granted. It could also mean she loves an "Apollo" man when aspected in synastry.

In Oscar's natal chart,
He has asteroid Apollo conjunct Psyche.
His soul craves to be an "Apollo", someone who's adored and worshipped by many. He would want that from his partner.

He has asteroid Nessus conjunct Atlantis.
I use Atlantis asteroid here differently, to mean "unfinished business" or "fight for power". This is where his Nessus can transcend from his past mistakes or just might go overboard losing his great power because he never learn.


Synastry Chart of Oscar Pistorius and Reeva Steenkamp




In the synastry chart, it is pretty telling.

Oscar's Moon conjuncts Reeva's Narcissus-Mars.
A Moon-Mars conjunction in synastry sounds like a great combination but not necessarily when it's a man's yin planet conjuncting a woman's yang planet.

In their case, Reeva's Narcissus did pick a partner that will make her feel better about herself and allow her to get further. But there's a sense of negligence on her part towards him because of Narcissus activation towards Oscar's feelings (Moon). When her concerns (more for herself) are not met, her anger can come through through her Mars, which again ends up hurting Oscar's feelings (Moon).

Oscar's Narcissus conjuncts Reeva's Saturn-Pluto.
In Oscar's chart, his Narcissus is however conjuncting Reeva's Saturn-Pluto, a sign of her trying hard to ground him. Everytime when he tries to love himself selfishly (perhaps through having fun and considering less of her feelings), Reeva's Saturn will speak up. It seems like an uncomfortable spot to be in considering

Oscar's Moon is also squaring Reeva's Saturn-Pluto. 
Reeva's Mars is also squaring Reeva's Saturn-Pluto.
Picking up from here, I sense a disagreement between them going back and forth. In Saturn square aspects, whenever Saturn is enraged and shushed, it triggers in the square point, which would be Reeva's Mars and Oscar's Moon. Again it is just a recurring reminder making him feel that she comes across as loving herself more than caring for him.

Oscar's Nessus conjuncts Reeva's Apollo-Venus.
In synastry, whenever there's something conjuncting Apollo, the Apollo person feels adored. But a part of me thinks Apollo gets projected on the male figure in the relationship.

Nessus is usually linked to "abuse" but I think it can have multiple meanings, not necessarily violent. I prefer using it pertaining to power dynamics. So it could literally meaning physical fights, verbal squabbles, each trying to gain the upper hand (which is usually what you see in relationships).

Reeva's Apollo-Venus causes Oscar's Nessus to be triggered. Each time when he wants to gain the upper hand, Reeva's Apollo comes in demanding to be worshipped. It is their way of communication and loving. But this Apollo here could also mean there is just blind adoration love from her to Oscar. If Oscar is indeed really abusive, she might not be able to tell when he has crossed the line.

Oscar's Nemesis conjuncts Reeva's Chiron
Reeva's Pholus conjuncts Oscar's North Node
Whenever Reeva tries to heal his wounds, Oscar feels she is his nemesis who is bringing him pain. This in turn, inflicts pain on her.
Her turning point helps to bring him further, which in this case, is sadly true.

Oscar's Pan conjunct Reeva's Echo
In the myth, Pan pursued Echo but Echo ran away. He became so angry when she didn't return his love so he tore her into pieces. Gaia picked up remains of her body but left Echo's voice to echo on the face on the Earth.

Final Reading:

I don't think I can conclude whether Oscar killed Reeva intentionally based off charts.

People describe Oscar as a narcissist or as having "narcissistic personality disorder" but I just might call him an Apollo instead. An Apollo demands admiration/adoration from others while a Narcissus just loves and cares about himself without caring about others. Oscar's Narcissus isn't exactly conjuncting his Venus but then again his Scorpio stellium can possibly widen orbs for that asteroid to have some influence over it. Either that or his Narcissus asteroid could be conjuncting his MC.

Reeva's chart comes across stronger as having both "Narcissus" and "Apollo" influence.

I would say they are a couple, who's just obsessed with each other due to admiration for each other. They adore each other and love that they make each other look good. They have lethal planetary square aspects, which spell very strong attraction but that turns into a different story when enraged.

But an "Apollo" man isn't perfect. Apollo is that guy that wants you to adore him and only himself, and nothing else. If his girl shifts her attention to another man, it can really bring out his jealousy streak.

This could be where it goes wrong as Oscar does have a pretty strong jealous chart on its own. With a stellium squaring his moon, his controlling obsession towards his lover comes off strongly without him even knowing.

Based on the trials, Reeva's text message did reveal about her complaint of "double standards" that Oscar had for being jealous about his ex-boyfriend when Oscar had been associated with other women.

"We are living in a double standard relationship…every 5 seconds I hear how u dated another chick, you really have dated a lot of people, yet you get upset if I mention ONE funny story with a long term boyfriend."

"I do everything to make you happy and to not say anything to rock the boat with u."

I think here's what happened. It is similar to story of Echo and Pan.
In the story of Echo and Pan, even though they had common interests and complement each other, they couldn't align in terms of commitment because Echo was not supposed to marry whereas Pan wanted to. Since Pan couldn't have her, he destroyed her. Such a foolish story.

Oscar and Reeva were 2 people who think they love each other more than the other did love him/her back. They are also 2 stubborn people which neither knows when to back off during a fight. Each wanted his/her way and it causes rage to just build.

So what exactly happened on Valentine's Day? I cannot tell but based on asteroids, I think asteroid Valentine would get triggered in a way. Reeva's Valentine is conjuncting her Karma-Nessus. Surely, there was another squabble between them that night about their Valentine's where she wanted to gain the upper hand this time. There was perhaps the mention of another man that came up which would spur his jealousy or a breakup that hurt his Apollo ego. His judgement could have been clouded by his rage later on that night.


I actually like Echo and Pan. It's sad how befitting it is in this chart.

I do have this with someone.

I'd like to think better of people. Asteroids unearth a layer of the story. How things play out really depend on free will.